Aubrey's Interview with Adrian 2013 08 17
(skipping spanish introduction)
25~ international longevity allicance of columbia
Dr. Aubrey De Grey
1:16 OK Now, hello aubrey, how are you
1:21 Hello, and thank you very much for having me
Thank you very. I know you are very today, and this.. SENS number 6.
138 yes, it's always a very frantic time now, I'm lookking forward to the conference
I would like to be there
1:51 First I would like to tell our audience, Please tell something about your self, your view in life, your goal in life
OK. Well, I have always been driven by the desire to make a difference to Humanity, the desire to improve the quality of life. When I was a teenager, and I discovered I had a .. I decided the best way to do this was to .. AI and to develop machines that would do all the things we don't like doing, because then we would have more time to do the things we do like doing, such as enriching our lives. I did it for a few years, but then when I was about 30, I began to realized there was an even more important humanatarian problem to work on, which was the problem of aging. I did not realize that was so important before. The reason I did not realize it was so important was not in terms of the problem itself, I always knew it was a larger problem, 3:27 even bigger then the problem of manual labour and so on, but I had always assumed that everybody else agreed with that view, and therefor there were lots and lots of biologists working on that problem. It was only when I was about 30 years of age that I discovered no, hardly any biologists were interested or were doing anything about it. 3:53 So around that time I was very lucky, I had the oppurtunity to switch fields completely, and to create a whole new carreer for myself, effectively in my spare time, and of course over the years that career became my main one
4:20 So, right now you are a professional biogerontoligsts, is that right
Yes, that is correct.
4:28 In the intro I mentioned, the most probable source of current movements, in regards to life extensions, are your ideas, mainly in this book (shows Aubrey's book). So I want our audience to know, what do you call exactly life extension, how does it look for you, how do you imagine it?
5:09 For me it is very important to know, that life extension is not really the thing I am working for. I am working on keeping people healty. the only trhing I think about life extension is that it is a bonus. It is a benefitial good side effect of staying healthy.
5:33 We know the sicker you are the more likely you are to die soon. In other words, the best way to live a long time is to stay healthy. In fact, the only way to live a long time is to stay healthy.
5:45 so I am focusing on keeping people really healthy, not just healthy for their age, but in the same stage of physical and mental function that they have when they are young adults, and keeping them that way however long they live.
6:02 If we can do that, when we can do that, people will, on average, live much much longer then they do today, but it is always vital for everyone to remember that that is just a side effect of being healthy.
The reason I emphasize that so strongly, is that it is very easy for people to make the opposite assumption, and to presume that if we develop medicine against aging, we will simply keep people alive for a long time in the same state of health that very old people are in today, and that is completely wrong.
6:43 OK, that's very interesting, so it's not keeping people in the state of decrepature or something like that, but keeping peopel in the young state of health, am I right?
That's exactly right.
So, that is something very desirable, that is something we would all like to have.
So the ppoint is, for most of us this has always been something impossible. I was once a medical student, I remember I saw the idea of keeping body working fine, working correctly, something fine, yes, something desirable, but not reachable.
How do you think it can be feasable, be possible, now, why did you start to thing we can reach this objective now?
8:05 I think the best way to explain that, is to start from how I realize that poeple were vieweing the deseases of old age wrongly. If we think about the reasons people get sick ,there are really three reasons for that. There are infections and .. like tubercolosis, things that everyone can get, whatever their age, however old they are, however young they are.
8:44 Then there are the non communicable deseases of old age, such as A D, or most cancers,
and the third thing there is is this misterious thing that is called aging, aging itself. And people think of the three types as different, but they think about the first two as similar things, and the third is different.
And I realized very quickly that that is the main mistake. The correct way to think about this, is that the deseases of old age are very much the same as aging, and are very different from the diseases that effect people independently of age.
Of course we had had less success against some infections deseases then others, but there is every reason to blieve we will fix all of them.
However, D of old age
only by being the final stages of a process
That means it is no surprise
Less alone develop a cure, for any of the D of old age.
It is kinda obvious that we couldn't do that unless we could
That in order to do it, we must somehow hange the oerall process, that goes over all of our liffe. And that process is the Acucm of damage,
Which are simply side effect sof the body's normal act of operation.
Int the same way a car or airplane would get old as a side effect of operation,
simliarily a human being
For a long time that damage is harmless
But eventually the damage gets to a point over what the body can tolerate
Abnd that's why we die
We just say, let us take advannntage that